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In this debut episode of the Pixel Retentive Podcast, Carl Cleanthes and Ross Ciuppa are interviewed by Chad Franzen of Rise25. They walk through the origins of Epic Made, their careers as artists, and how they approach their projects. The two also touch on confidence in the art community and why it matters for your artists. Get ready to join the journey of Epic Made's visionary leaders and discover the stories that inspired their rise to the top.
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